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Post by Cecilia on Aug 5, 2005 11:35:52 GMT
Why do you think Eric is so cruel to Stephanie?
I mean, he kisses Brooke before her in her house, he proposes to Brooke & asks her to be co-CEO, and then proudly tells Stephanie all about it. Telling her that the money & contacts Stephs family gave him meant very little and that Brooke is the reason Forrester got successful (funny, I remember Forrester being successful before Brooke came along). Smugly telling Stephanie that he gave Brooke Steph´s office cause she won´t be needing it anymore (was he firing her?!). Then he went on calling Ridge "Stephanie´s son" (is he disowning Ridge now too?). Admitting to Stephanie smugly that he´s always been in love with Brooke. Then rubbing it in her face that she doesn´t have a loving caring bond with Kristen & Felicia like he has. And how Ridge & Thorne as well as he ran to Brooke to get away from Stephanie. And telling her the family deserves better than Stephanie, that she never cared for them but only wanted to control them all and wanted them to be what she wanted, not what they wanted themselves. Taking the photoalbum, wishing she has removed all pictures of herself because his family is everyone in that album except for her. Finishing off with telling her she made his life a living hell without even trying.
Why did he have to be THAT cruel? He attacked everything in her life absolutely heartlessly. Why would he do that?
Why did he remarry her if he hated her and felt she made his life a living hell? Why in that case did he lie to her for years, pretending he loved her? And for what purpose? Torturing himself and her like some hobby? Eric is usually never this mean, evil and heartless. He totally kicked on her when she was down. That doesn´t sound like Eric "family peace at any cost" Forrester.
Why was he so viciously cruel to her?
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Post by John and Susan fan on Aug 5, 2005 12:20:33 GMT
Yes WHY indeed. Most likely I am alone with this opinion,but I think he did it because HE IS SO HURT BY THE ONE HE LOVES. Yes I know it sounds really stupid, but that is the only thing I can come up with at this time.Eric has NEVER been this cruel to Stephanie before Not even when he learn´t that Ridge wasn´t his son. I know I know it is crazy and some may want to call it wishful thinking.BUT bottom line is, why would he waste his time and energy on being so cruel if he wasn´t HURT BIG TIME by the woman he loves.If he never felt anything for her,well then just pack your bags, leave and SHUT UP ERIC. He makes himself out to be A BIG FOOL if he wants us all to believe that all the years he spent with Stephanie ment NOTHING to him. He did after all have 5 children with her, that wasn´t just an accident, he wanted to remarry her, claiming her to be the love of his life , he went after her with all he had when Stephanie lived with Mass.He wanted to renew their vows, WHY IN GOD´S NAME DID HE DO ALL THAT IF IT WAS ALL JUST ONE BIG FAT LIE? No... I don´t believe Eric at all,he is hurt and angry and that makes him forget all the happy years he spent with Stephanie, I know they have had problems but they have been happy also. Please writers give Eric his memory back ASAP. Can´t help it but I miss them together so much
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Post by John and Susan fan on Aug 5, 2005 13:01:48 GMT
I read this on another board about Eric and Stephanie on the Friday show and how they NEVER have been like this with each other. "Still there is a thin line between love and hate. In their hearts they still love eachother". My thoughts exactly.I just hope it will be revealed in the not so far future.
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Post by cntrygurl7 on Aug 5, 2005 13:35:44 GMT
Not an excuse but he is a guy and he wanted to hurt Stephanie like he felt and he knows proposing and getting close and kissing Brooke is gonna do it. I don't agree w/ it but that is how he is doing it and why I think is to get at her.
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Post by taylorfanalways on Aug 5, 2005 17:13:16 GMT
Eric will realize what a mistake it was to take Brookes side, after it is too late, she will like she has done so many time before show her true ways and he will come crawling back to Stephanie to help him get "His" company back for him. What would drive him crazy is for her and Massimo to go into business together. There is so much story that could come from this entire situation.
It is so goo to have Taylor back, lets hope she gets a great story.
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Post by taylorfanalways on Aug 5, 2005 17:15:16 GMT
it is so good to have Taylor back
SORRY for the Typo,
This is a great board for Taylor and Stephanie fans, Stephanie is B&B
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Post by niala on Aug 5, 2005 17:40:37 GMT
Eric sucks! He has never given Stephanie the credit, love or marriage that she deserves. I hope that she sees that now and rises to the occasion by creaming him and Forrester Creations!
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Post by provence on Aug 5, 2005 18:17:09 GMT
Eric just made it in fron of Stephanie to hurt her. I hate him! And Stephanie was'nt the only woman he loved because he told her that he never stop to love Brooke. grrrrrrrr Go Steph with Massimo now! And take off your money from Forrester's Cie.
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Post by Cece on Aug 5, 2005 20:27:13 GMT
I don´t know about Massimo. I mean, he said that Jackie was the love of his life today... He just couldn´t take a chance on her again, cause he´s afraid to get hurt again. But that is just a re-write, cause we know Massimo said Steph was the love of his life... Eric really did attack everything in Stephanie´s life today. Boy did he bash her! At first I was like, what a scum!!!! I was shocked that this was gonna happen. Jackie said to Massimo today that husbands & wives often hurt each other, but it shouldn´t end the relationship or something like that, and it seemed like that was true both in that scene & with Eric & Stephanie... Do you remember the Gregory/Olivia storyline on Sunset Beach? Gregory & Olivia loved each other, but they hurt each other a lot and divorced and fought like cats & dogs. There was a bitter fight between them for like 2 years and it was not pretty. But they did love each other althought they both said they hated each other and argued all the time. Gregory married Annie and Olivia got involved with AJ. But I think the audience still knew that Gregory & Olivia loved each other. And on the final week of the show, they admitted they loved each other. This kinda reminds me of that storyline. I mean, I don´t think the writers will do this enormous re-write saying Eric & Stephanie never loved each other at all. Eric saying his whole life with Steph was a living hell just does not ring true. Before he found out the truth about the heart attack, he pretty much admitted he loved her and thanked her for everything she´d done. Then he hears the truth and suddenly everything was a living hell with her?? They love each other still. I just cannot believe that Eric remarried her just to torture himself, wanting to "live in hell". How stupid would that be?! No, there has got to be more to it than that! Otherwise it´s the worst writing I have ever seen!! Not to mention totally unbelievable. Don´t get me wrong, I don´t like how Eric attacked Steph and kicked on her. But there is no way he can think his whole life with her was a hell. If he didn´t love her, he wouldn´t kick on her like that. Cause that just isn´t Eric. So I think Eric & Stephanie will fight really much now. They will most likely be enemies. But they don´t really loathe each other. They loathe what the other DID. I actually think this could be a very interesting storyline. Far more interesting than seeing them just disagree all the time about Ridge & Brooke. I will be rooting for Stephanie of course. If Eric had just walked out on her without saying anything hurtful or doing anything hurtful to her, then I had gotten really worried. So this almost feels a little better, as strange as it may sound..... ;D I am hoping for a really interesting Eric vs Stephanie storyline here. And like they say "there is a fine line between love and hate" and "you only hurt the ones you love".
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Post by mozzer on Aug 5, 2005 22:32:46 GMT
I want to see Eric dead. Or suffering tremendously. I've hated him for years, but today I despise him more than ever. I want Stephanie to crush him and make him pay for everything.
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Post by GoStephanie on Aug 5, 2005 22:51:54 GMT
Why is he so cruel? ErWeak is a weak creature, not a real man because a real man would not say such things, he is as she said so well, "declasse." More to the point, he is insecure at his core, and also has been having a mid-life crisis Big Time with Brooker I think all the men on the show who have been involved with Brooker completely lose all thought, and "think" with their weenies only. Each of them have hurt the woman in their lives and left them for Brooker. Stephanie is too much woman for EWeak. He clearly is delusional about his chances with Brooker. The writers also made him so cruel and over the top so that Stephanie can rise again--she's best when she's fighting, and of course, now we pro-Stephanie fans will want to watch to see how ErWeak gets his just desserts. I can't wait to see him on his knees. I was also disappointed that Mass was so self-righteous in front of everyone and was the first to bash Stephanie. Some friend.
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Post by dee on Aug 6, 2005 3:53:56 GMT
Sorry but I have to disagree with the poster John & Susan fan. I think this all started when they were in college, Eric being poor a church mouse was in love with Brooke's Beth mother, Stephanie was in love with Eric. Evidently something happen to bring Eric & Stephanie together, resulting in her getting pregnant. Eric did what most youngmen did in those days, he married Stephanie, the money was the icing on the cake. Stephanie faking her heart attack gave him the chance to do what he has wanted to do for years, but before walking out he had to try to make Stephanie feel small, but that didn't happen. Eric telling Stephanie that he has always loved Brooke was a lie, if he was real man he would have told her that just like being second choice to Ridge, Brooke is second choice to her mother. That is why Eric is so angry, he feels that he was trapped in a marriage that he didn't want.
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Post by GoStephanie on Aug 6, 2005 14:21:40 GMT
Dee, I see your point about him having been in love with Beth in college long before B&B started. The fact is, a woman doesn't get herself pregnant by herself and there were condoms even back then. ErWeak was always weak and Stephanie was always strong. It is twisted that since ErWeak missed his chance with Beth, he may be trying to relive his life with Beth's daughter, Brooker. And as some have pointed out, it doesn't make a lot of sense for him to say he has always been in love with Brooker, when he was supposedly so in love with Beth at one time. You could see the pleasure and relish in his eyes when he attempted to make Stephanie feel small. Her loyalty and love (in addition to her money) throughout the years allowed him to pursue his dreams in having his own fashion house. He is so blind--no one seems to see that this is so icky for the grandchildren to see--their grandfather/father going after their mother/step mother once again, and Brooker so fresh from her "breakup" with Ridge. His proposing to Brooker so soon is not much different from Brooker sleeping with Nick so soon after thinking Ridge was dead. They deserve each other. It's ironic that it looks like Brooker is going to be with Nick again. Bottom line, ErWeak has no principles, scruples, brains, or taste.
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Post by provence on Aug 6, 2005 15:42:07 GMT
He was supposed to marry Beth after all those years and Brooke came and.........she made a bad thing to her own mother. She only things t her...Me, myself and I!
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Post by mozzer on Aug 6, 2005 16:06:43 GMT
Fabulous post, GoStephanie. ICAM. Eric and Beth had their chance years later and she chose to stay with her abandoning husband. He went after his son's ex-fiance. Eric said all those things just to spite Stephanie. I honestly think what bugs him most is the 1 million bribe Steph gave Mark - when he first heard about the money THEN he became really angry with her. He is just an old, cheapskate, weak whiner.
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Post by GoStephanie on Aug 6, 2005 16:19:52 GMT
ErWeak said that he had 40 miserable years with Stephanie but even if he married her because they thought Ridge was ErWeak's at the time, they went on to have three more children. Not immaculate conception, though Stephanie probably wishes they had been! And the second time ErWeak married Stephanie wasn't because she was pregnant again. The writers conveniently forget history and logic sometimes in order to take the show in another direction. It is after all, a soap, and we are all hooked and now look forward to Stephanie taking him down. I'm new to this board and am really enjoying everyone's comments and viewpoint! Thank you.
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Post by dee on Aug 6, 2005 16:25:32 GMT
Eric brain below his belt is doing the thinking, evidently he doesn't care what the ramifications would be. All he cares about is making Stephanie suffer. Eric is going to see that the saying "hell has no fury like a woman scorned is true, also he said that Stephanie made his life a living hell, after she gets done with him, hell will be the safest haven for him.
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Post by Princess Silvia on Aug 6, 2005 17:44:19 GMT
All I can say is that Eric needs to WAKE UP soon and realize he's pushing 70 and that if he does not realize how good Stephanie has been for him the past 45-50 years or so, he never will. Nobody forced him to stay married to Stephanie, nor marry her in the first place. Now he's mad because he stayed with her? It's his own fault. And if it was sooo bad, why in the world re-marry her... twice? This man is blind and weak. So much so it's pretty much disgusting...
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Post by Cecilia on Aug 6, 2005 18:27:58 GMT
Sorry but I have to disagree with the poster John & Susan fan. I think this all started when they were in college, Eric being poor a church mouse was in love with Brooke's Beth mother, Stephanie was in love with Eric. Evidently something happen to bring Eric & Stephanie together, resulting in her getting pregnant. Eric did what most youngmen did in those days, he married Stephanie, the money was the icing on the cake. Stephanie faking her heart attack gave him the chance to do what he has wanted to do for years, but before walking out he had to try to make Stephanie feel small, but that didn't happen. Eric telling Stephanie that he has always loved Brooke was a lie, if he was real man he would have told her that just like being second choice to Ridge, Brooke is second choice to her mother. That is why Eric is so angry, he feels that he was trapped in a marriage that he didn't want. I don´t really agree with that, cause Eric had plenty of chances to go after Beth, but he didn´t. Beth came back once and was ready to take Eric back, but he said no. And once before that, Eric also dumped Beth when he found out Angela was his daughter. And he cheated on Beth with Stephanie in collage. So I really don´t think Beth Logan is the love of his life. He´s had plenty of chances to go after Beth in the last 15 years, cause Beth has made it quite clear that she wants Eric but settles for Steven if she can´t have Eric. And I also don´t understand why Eric would re-marry Stephanie 2 times if he really didn´t want it. If he had been looking for a way out for years, why the HELL re-marry her? Doesn´t make any sense. I really do believe Eric does love Stephanie, but he hates and can´t accept the things she does (regarding the meddling and her actions to get rid of Brooke, who IS the mother of Eric´s 2 youngest kids...)
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Post by Cecilia on Aug 6, 2005 18:34:19 GMT
I forgot to add a quite important thing. In like 1992 and forward, when Eric & Stephanie started getting along and become friends again after their divorce, they often talked about "the good old days" when they were married. Eric often admitted there were some very good years in their marriage before it went south. I clearly remember (cause I have it on tape) that Brooke was quite insecure about how Eric really felt about Stephanie when Brooke was married to Eric. She talked to Ridge quite often about it. "What if Eric is falling back in love with Stephanie?" And that is what drove Brooke straight into Ridge´s understanding & loving arms again.... (And Steph took advantage of that and forged a letter from "Eric" to Steph that Brooke got to read, saying he still loved Stephanie, and Brooke bought it without any hesitation and comforted herself with Ridge that same night.....)
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Post by niala on Aug 6, 2005 20:12:51 GMT
Lmao Dee! ;D You're right, when Steph's done with Eric, Hell will be the safest place for him! Eric is a sissy and we can all agree that Stephanie deserves better! Any thoughts on Steph and Taylor's father getting together? I know it won't happen but I'm anxious to read your opinions on it.
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